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She survived the Tree of Life massacre seven years ago today — and still shows up to pray

“Hatred starts small and travels fast,” said Audrey Glickman, who was leading services that fateful Shabbat morning

Audrey Glickman showed up for morning minyan today — as she has nearly every morning since Oct. 27, 2018, when she survived the deadliest antisemitic attack in U.S. history.

Glickman, now 68, was leading services that fateful Shabbat morning in a small chapel inside Pittsburgh’s Tree of Life when she heard the unmistakable sound of gunfire. She grabbed congregant Joe Charny, then 90, and raced up the stairs and into a small room. Together, huddled and scared, they hid under their prayer shawls.

Seven years later, she still prays in Squirrel Hill. But what she thought would be a wake-up call ended up being a warning: She’s watching the rise of antisemitism, the political rhetoric that helped fuel the shooting, and the divisions that persist. “The hatred is increasing,” she told me Sunday by phone. “And it’s taking different shapes.”

Below is our conversation, edited for length and clarity ahead of tonight’s memorial gathering at the Jewish Community Center in Pittsburgh.

Does this anniversary feel different to you?

Everything feels different this year. There’s more talk about how the shooter was influenced — the idea that Jews were “bringing in immigrants.” It’s a reminder that words matter. Hatred starts small and travels fast.

The shooter is now on death row. Does that bring you a sense of closure?

Death isn’t a penalty. It ends punishment. Being on death row — cut off from society — that’s the punishment. And that’s fine with me.

What do you most want people to remember seven years later?

That the victims weren’t just those in the building. The whole city was wounded. The first responders who were working that day felt it. We have to give people space to understand their own grief — to inhabit their victimhood and come to terms with it.

Iris Schaen and Jenny Schaen hug as they join with others for a solidarity vigil at the Holocaust Memorial Miami Beach to remember the victims of the mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh.
Iris Schaen and Jenny Schaen hug as they join with others for a solidarity vigil at the Holocaust Memorial Miami Beach to remember the victims of the mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. Photo by Getty Images

Antisemitism has increased since the 2018 attack, especially after Oct. 7 2023.

Antisemitism from the right is a physical threat. Antisemitism from the left is an existential threat. They’re different. We can sometimes work with the left — at least talk — but it’s hard to work with the right when they’re against us.

What worries you most about antisemitism right now?

The hatred is increasing, and it’s taking new shapes. And we’re not battling it efficiently. People are discontented, and they need someone to blame — and leaders exploit that. They push people toward hate because it keeps them divided.

What do you want people to know about Jews?

Jewish people are just people. We don’t spend our whole lives “being Jews” and doing mysterious things that make people want to hate us.  We serve in the army, we run libraries, we teach children. My father cleaned rugs. We’re ordinary people who want to live and work alongside everyone else. And as long as we can all work together for a better world, we’re going to be a lot better off.

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